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There's Lots of Really Bad Advice Out There

Posted on December 2nd, 2011 Written on michael's blog


Do you like this?
 
NO, NO and NO!

Yesterday, I got a tweet from my friend (and in the Facebook age, aren't we all friends?) @profsamuels, (he's a prof at NYU but also works at CNN, so says his Facebook page. We have never met in the 'real world'.)  In any event, Profsamuels, who is Jason Samuels,  tweeted a link entitled Four Tips for Better B-roll.
(see above)

Needless to say, I clicked on the link. I am always looking for good stuff. 
This was not good stuff
This was bad stuff.

When we started nyvs, and even to this day, some of our partners (not from the film or video business) asked why we didn't just open the doors to anyone who wanted to add to the body of instruction.

Others said, 'the web is full of free information on how to make videos.  Why not just become an 'aggregator', like Drudge, for example.

Each time I read something like these 'four great tips', I am reminded why we don't do that.

Now, let me say that I don't know Ron Dawson, who posted these tips on his website, Daredreamermag.com

From what I can see of his work on his website, he is a very good cameraman and has a very good eye.
He also seems to specialize in industrials and highly directed spots, which is fine, but it is not documentary filmmaking.

Now, down to the picking apart stuff:

First Point from Ron:  When shooting B-roll, "Wait Until After The Interviews"

No. No. No.

There is so much wrong here, I barely know where to start, but I will anyway.
First, if you spend 90% of your time shooting an interview (something I am strongly against anyway), then you will end up with 90% of your film being either a talking head or being driven by an interview. I am going to put this in bold because it is really important.  You are the storyteller. You tell me the story. If you are shooting a film about a bus driver, don't expect the bus driver (or the single mom) to miraculously turn into a storyteller. That's not what they do. They drive busses.  You re supposed to be the professional story-teller, so you tell  me the story, not them. 

The world is filled with really terrible video and film producer who spend tedious hours, days and sometimes months locked in an edit suite tortously trying to twist transcritps (nicley alliterative, no?) from interviews into something approaching a coherent narrative.

Stop!

Stop because it's going to be a mess before you start.

Consider this:  If you were assigned to write a profile for Vanity Fair about a NYC bus driver, and you turned into the editor of the magazine 2500 words of nothing more than a long string of quotes from the bus driver laced together, do you think you would get paid? Do you think it would be published? Do you think would ever work again? Nor should you.  You would produce a pile of unreadable crap.  What do you think makes video any different?

So shoot the whole story.  Visually. Tell me a story with pictures and a few nat sound emerges.

Then....lace together a visual picture story with the events you have shot. Drop in a a few soundbites.

Now, if you want narrative from your subjects (ie, interviews), put them in front of your laptop. Show the the scene you are going to use. Then, ask them, (while recording them) 'Bob, remember when you stopped the bus to pick up that old lady in the wheelchair and everyone was complaining?  I am going to show that to you now.  Now, tell me how you felt while that was happening."

Voila!  Soundbite, voice over or whatever you want to call it.

Interview driven by the story, as opposed to story driven by the interview.

Get the concept?

You couldn't do this even a few years ago (or my guess is the way that Ron worked in the past and probably works now). You could not bring your subjects to the 'edit suite' (unless he was Mick Jagger and you were making Gimme Shelter).  But now, take your edit suite (your laptop) into the field with you with the camera and drop in a rough cut of the scene on the spot and get your soundbite.  Trust me, it takes a lot less time than recording some stupid interview, transcribing, laying in sound, trying to make it make sense and finally wallpapering with some 'b-roll', another term I hate.

OK. I was going to cover his other terrible points, but I think I have made my point already.

Jason Samuels, who I tweeted back and told him it was crap said, 'answer him in your blog'.

OK Jason. The ball is in your court.  

m


6 comment(s)

michael
3:43 pm Saturday
Dec 3, 2011
It's not cheap ! But thats why we made nyvs!!!

AcousticAshley
3:41 pm Saturday
Dec 3, 2011
i tried, they wouldn't let me! Not enough money in the budget, i knew someone who did it though and she said it was great! Throw it in for free then matey then I'm there! ;) hehe! I looked at the prices, woo Mr R! All i can say is..good man!! hehe!

michael
3:31 pm Saturday
Dec 3, 2011
Too bad you didn't take the video bootcamp when we did it with the been. Maybe you wanna do the guardian one next year!

AcousticAshley
3:02 pm Saturday
Dec 3, 2011
You're right about good story telling but i also need a camera that i can plug a mic into so i can get good audio. I was looking at Canon XA10, i also need a clip mic, that should be all...i'll wait for the January sales! Shame I was made redundant from the BBC, man I had access to Z1's and good mics BUT that in itself made me enroll on this video course! I was all set to roll on micro docs like that, the quality of pciture did blow me away (i'm even being taught in that style of video now, constructing shot lists, scripts, cutaways etc etc) damn its hard to break the convention, i guess i need to view a LOT more Michael R type videos to get it into my head! Time to head on back to your tutorials! :)

michael
1:54 pm Saturday
Dec 3, 2011
Hi Ashley OK. First you don't need the most expensive gear in the world to get started. Just as all you need to write Great Expectations is a pencil, so don't get hung up on the gear. Get hung up on the story telling. Now, as to the MicroDoc with Ellen Goodman, yes it is painfully banal and boring. It is essentially one long, moderately coherent (moderately incoherent because it is a bunch of soundbites strung together) interview with Ellen Goodman - essentially 2 minutes plus of a talking head with a bunch of video wallpaper covering it. I need a character and I need an arc of story, and I need a narrative. There is the hint of an arc of story when the people from Salesforce arrive to start unpacking the bikes but no sooner am i introduced to this idea than we are back to talking head and 'sustainability' (whatever that is. No one actually talks like this in real life). Much better to do this as a small film about the amazing day a child had when they got their first bike.

AcousticAshley
1:14 pm Saturday
Dec 3, 2011
Interesting. So you say stuff like these micro docs shouldn't be done like this?http://www.youtube.com/user/MicroDocumentaries?feature=g-all#p/u/5/ZcD7jKbkCR8 I think these are pretty cool but i'd like to see an example of what you like. I'm only a few months into a video course and we are being trained like this (old school) I almost have the money to buy a semi decent camera and mic, which is why i haven't been on this site for awhile, i simply don't have any semi decent equipment. i was going to start on some small micro docs like these to practice, local charities etc..but you got me thinking!